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Fishtown Local: NOAA Jane's scientific revenge

Seeded on Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:56 PM EST
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Fishtown Local Gordon Baird The Gloucester Daily Times

Now let's see, if she wanted to get revenge . . . what could the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Jane Lubchenco have done to stick it back to Gloucester, those darn fishermen and that really annoying newspaper that insisted on exposing her every move?

Imagine if she was still seething from her pet doberman, enforcer-guard dog Dale Jones being found out, and his and her laundry hung out on the rack for all to see in D.C. Would she have looked for a way to "get even"?

She was embarrassed into whisking Mr. Jones from the scene and into hiding, and, worse, she became subject to prying questions about accounting for money and travel perks.

Judges and inspector generals made her NOAA-It-All agency back off trumped-up legal charges as well as inflated, bogus fines. As Queen of the Seas, Ms. Jane, must have gotten pretty darn sick of Massachusetts senators, reps and residents asking more and more questions.

Didn't they realize who she was? She was the unofficial ruler of the oceans, along with the good folks at the Environmental Defense Fund, who had gone out of their way to save the world and satisfy their investors — oops, donors.

And those troublemakers continued to question the validity of her precious science, cataclysmic jellyfish and all.

Now, John Kerry and even Scott Brown were daring to wonder if the numbers were accurate? Didn't they know she was an EDF officer and a Pew fellow?

But wait! That was it! A stroke of genius might have come to her: Use your liabilities as assets, as the experts say.

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bore-head007

In "Trawlgate," using the wrong net mesh size led to the first batch of bad science. Oops, that was a mistake by NOAA scientists, yes. And did that lead to lower quotas for Gloucester and other fishermen? Also yes.

But, hmmm . . . another survey offered new opportunities to . . . um, readjust the quotas. That could solve a whole bunch of problems. The numbers don't lie, right?

No, people do. Picture that old cartoon image of the good angel and the bad angel perched on Jellyfish Jane's shoulders. Not allowing any fishermen on the new survey boats might have added to the temptations our heroine faced. Who can possibly know what went on in her head?

  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:59 PM EST
Dare To Hope

LOL! Jellyfish Jane, LMAO!

Good job bh...keep the pressure high, somthing's bound to explode!

  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:30 AM EST
bore-head007

Some history of the "jelly fish Jane" name.

In the Oceans of Abundance report, paid for by Walmart, marine ecologist Boris Worm, quack extraordinaire included, "the only thing that will be left in the oceans will be jelly fish".

  • 3 votes
#2.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:39 AM EST
Dare To Hope

Walmart? Everybody is in somebodys pocket, eh?

If anything at all is going to empty the oceans, it will be pollution from very powerful industries, imo. Close to more specifically...the oil industry and nuclear plants.

Who, in your opinion, should she be replaced by, or is that position even a one person job?

  • 2 votes
#2.2 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:54 AM EST
bore-head007

Thank you Dare, for asking about this, because everything is never what it seems!

The woman is supposed to be a scientist. That is what she is known for. But what kind?!

She is an environmentalist, but, again. What kind? There are more than one description, and most people believe the word is all inclusive. It's not!

Santorumhas been talking about the administrations religeous belief of environmentalism, and he's onto something, although he is totally wrong!comment #4. You are correct about the pollution, and there are links there to explain.

This article has some other posts that are relavent to this subject. If you go there, it saves me a lot of typing!

http://drich13.newsvine.com/_news/2012/02/20/10459015-obama-budget-means-increased-spending-on-science-but-tough-choices-nature?threadId=3350524&commentId=62680793#c62680793

This tells the whole story.

    Today we present the Introduction and the the first chapter, The Oregon Connection. Published next will be the Fishing Management Connection, The Canadian Connection, The New England Connection, The Florida Connection and lastly, The New York Connection.
    CONQUEST OF THE OCEAN
    INTRODUCTION
    This is the story of how a handful of scientists set out from Oregon with an unshakable belief that they knew what was best for the rest of us. They ended up conquering the world (or at least the watery portions of it) and got rich along the way, while the fishermen and their families only worked harder and got poorer. When their scientific dogma connected with nearly unlimited resources, the earth quaked and the resulting tidal wave swept aside all the usual checks and balances. It carried along the media, the politicians, the government agencies and the non-governmental organizations with such force that seemingly no one could stand against the tide.
    The purpose of this investigation is threefold: To trace the evolution of Ocean Management principles; To begin to track the interaction of these few experts who were responsible for shaping and popularizing these concepts; and to follow the spread of money, power and influence which made these Ocean Management strategies virtually inevitable.
    http://fishery.about.com/b/2011/04/24/united-states-fishing-regulations-a-coup-detat.htm
    Its seems like a lot of reading, but this should be the first read, and the data base for connections to back up this article. It really doesn't take long!
    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
    When jelly fish was appointed, she was to then appoint the administrator of the National Marine Fishery Service. Her choices were, Dr Brian Rothschild, Dean of SMAST, Dartmouth, and Arne Fuglvog, Lisa Murkowskis aide.
    Instead, she chose Eric Schwabb, a State of Maryland Bureaucrat with zero marine fishery experience.
    I can continue, but you now get the picture, at least of the fishery end of her duty's.
    This is where she comes from, who she is, why she gave BP a pass in the Gulf, and it tells you, she is the 1% and stands with and for the 1%
    Fired? She should be publicly flogged, tarred, and feathered.
    ps, that conquest of the oceans series is excellent reading!

  • 2 votes
#2.3 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:36 PM EST
Dare To Hope

Whew! That was alot of reading but laid things out very well.

I try to think things down the most basic element, and if I understand things correctly, this would be my conclusion/answer to the private fisheries and catch share supporters:

If you have any investment, involvement, or stand to gain financially in any way in these two ideas, you should not be permitted to open ocean fish. If they choose to privatize any part of the fishing industry, that should be the only way they can make their living. They shouldn't be able to have it both ways. Does that sound too simple?

It still blows me away when I think of how much of this planet is ocean and here people are wanting to privatize it. It's sadly laughable.

Thanks for the great info and I'll finish the conquest of the oceans later today.

  • 1 vote
#2.4 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:46 PM EST
bore-head007

what is happening is, catch shares opens the door for outsiders that have no interest in fisherys, to become involved in commodity trading.

EDF the friendly Wall St environmentalists believe in the stock market approach to a better environment!

David Festa, Lubchenco associate for decades predicts profits of 400% for investors!

In order for outsiders to profit, the profit must come from somewhere.

It comes from higher prices to us, consumers, and it also comes from the share of the catch that the crew splits up from their pay! More work, less pay. Investors happy to dredge profit with clean hands, and no broken finger nails!

  • 2 votes
#2.5 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:09 PM EST
Dare To Hope

Gotcha! And we all know how well the stock market works/s.

They are constantly on the lookout to find new money to steal and there's not much left that they don't already have their hands in so they have to create new, devious ways to get what they want.

400%!! That's pitiful. The more I learn the madder I get.

  • 1 vote
#2.6 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:47 PM EST
bore-head007

We have quite a few fishermen show up from time to time, and as I watch them being financially, a spiritually beaten, all I can do is try telling people about it.

Thank you for listening and reading, Dare To Hope.

  • 2 votes
#2.7 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:01 PM EST
Dare To Hope

Do you think starting some petitions to the proper people would do any good? If so, if you want to write it and include the names and info, I will happily start one/some on Care2 or you can join and start them.

  • 1 vote
#2.8 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:16 PM EST
bore-head007

You can sign this one right here!

I see two viners on the front page.

Dicky G, and Joel H

  • 2 votes
#2.9 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:25 PM EST
Dare To Hope

Done, with a long note in comment section, nice but straight to the point.

  • 1 vote
#2.10 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:48 PM EST
bore-head007

Awesome. Dicky G is a great writer.

Joel H was on discoverys Lobster Wars.

  • 2 votes
#2.11 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:51 PM EST
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roadhead

A lot of reading in those links BH but well worth it. It is a crying shame that more people aren't up in arms about all of the bull@!$%# that this alleged woman has caused to the fishing industry. Someday it will hit them in the wallet even harder than it is now. Let's hope that it isn't too late to save the small boat/independent fishing industry.

Keep up the good fight and someday soon the tide will hopefully turn toward enlightenment instead of just greed.

  • 2 votes
Reply#3 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:53 PM EST
bore-head007

Thanks for checkin it out roadhead. Still swingin'!

  • 2 votes
#3.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:54 PM EST
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Kavika

Good article BH. I've been following your posts on this disaster called a government agency for awhile now.

BTW, I signed Dare To Hope petition in your behalf...

  • 2 votes
Reply#4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:41 PM EST
bore-head007

Thank you friend Kavika. Its people like Dare To Hope that make the sun shine.

  • 1 vote
#4.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:53 PM EST
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